This was originally posted on September 10, 2014. It seems relevant to me these days as I continue to develop practices for my groundedness, community, and well-being.
Recently, in response to the excellent conversation following Nancy Vedder-Shults’ post on the goddess Kali, Carol Christ commented to Nancy, “I too love our conversations, wish there was more in depth talk on our blog [FAR], maybe there will be.” Carol’s comment* struck a deep chord within me. One of the main objectives that the FAR co-founders had in creating Feminism and Religion was that it be a place where we could and would engage with one another across a diversity of feminist issues and the broad range of feminist passions and work – where we could discuss, critique, and build upon on each other’s efforts.
So two things came to mind as I reflected on Carol’s comment. The first was my personal lament that I have not been as actively participating in the discussions that follow the FAR blog posts as I did when we first started Feminism and Religion. FAR has such rich and valuable material – it really does provide a great opportunity for conversation and dialogue – and sadly I have been a passive participant as of late. I read and learn from the discussions, but I have not been joining in. I lament that. FAR is definitely a place where I could engage with others in deep conversations, but how actively am I actually doing this?
The second was a growing pattern I have noticed occurring on FAR, of which I have been a guilty contributor myself. That is, it tends to be people from within the particular spiritual or religious tradition of which the post is about who are the ones that actively engage in discussion in the comment section of a post. For example, in Nancy’s post about the goddess Kali, no Christian, Jewish, or Muslim identified people participated in the conversation (that I can tell). Of course, this is not always the case – many times we have a diversity of voices chiming in, but I would say not often enough. However, we do have some extraordinary contributors/participants on FAR, such as Carol Christ and Nancy Vedder-Shults, who are models of engaged conversation partners on all manner of topics. They engage across a variety of topics and religious difference and participate in conversation with almost all the contributors. You all are my inspiration!
In myself, I notice that even though I have gotten to know many of the FAR contributors well – from emailing behind the scenes and the collaboration we do for this project – I can still get intimidated by the fact that I don’t know much about a given topic. Sometimes I feel that I could be out of place if I was to chime in on a conversation of a tradition not my own – or worse, on a topic about which I disagree with the author. I get timid! And sometimes I don’t even know how to engage across our differences. This is highly disappointing to me as one of my highest feminist values is to practice the act of listening, learning from, and engaging with my sisters – and brothers – across our differences. Part of my interest in starting this FAR project was that this would be a place where I would practice such dialogue and community building. And I do want to practice these and I want to do so more intentionally.
As I was coming into my practice of eating vegan, Carol J. Adams’ book The Inner Art of Vegetarianism: Spiritual Practices for Body and Soul was a great resource to me. Listening to her on a WATER teleconference was my first inspiration to make the change, but reading her book and coming to see vegetarianism as a spiritual practice is what strengthened and sustained me as I transitioned from being vegetarian to being vegan. With the guidance of her book I was able to incorporate a new way of eating into my life in a more holistic and compassionate way. One of the key moments of transformation for me was when I came across this sentence in her book: “You are worth the time it takes to create a practice.” I remember thinking: no matter how long this takes me, I value myself and the lives of the animals enough to take the time to learn to eat differently. This is so worth it.
More recently, as I have focused on writing my dissertation, I realized I was spending an inordinate amount of time sitting at my desk. In July, when I spent several weeks in near isolation writing my first chapter, it occurred to me that this was not a good practice for my body. On the one hand, I eat pretty healthfully, but on the other, I was spending hours upon hours sitting in a chair before my computer. Mind you, exercise has never been my strength or been that appealing to me, but I do know exercise is a needed part of life and I usually walk a couple miles each day just by getting from “here to there.” But during my focused writing time, I was getting none of it, and I knew this could become a growing patterns in the upcoming months as I continue my writing. So I knew I had to do something. I had to find at least some small thing that I would be willing to spend my time practicing that could contribute to my body’s strength and health. It didn’t matter if I had to start real small and increase my practice over time, because I remembered that “I am worth the time it takes to create a practice.”
I started with 4 minutes of pushups and sit ups every day – just four minutes – it had to feel easy so that I did not feel defeated before the get go. Every day of July, I laid a towel on the floor, set a timer for 4 short little minutes, and did my strength exercises. In the beginning I struggled to complete a single push up, so I spent most of the time alternating between different kinds of sit ups and ab exercises. Over the weeks, I increased my time by 15 second increments. Currently I am at 5 minutes and 45 seconds and can now complete 7 pushups(!) – a small victory, certainly, but a very satisfying one as I can feel my strength building and can begin to see a slight difference in the contours of my arm muscles.
Making changes in our life does not come easily and incorporating new practices can be a long process. But Carol Adams reminds me that time is what we have, that how I enjoy my time, what I give it toward, and how I am to share it with others are all my choices to make. There are practices important enough to me that I consider them worth the time and process they take to create. Eating in an ethical and compassionate way is one, having a strong and healthy body is another, and engaging in dialogue with you all, my sisters and brothers, across our various passions and religious differences is definitely one of them – and one I want to strengthen that one. We are worth it. And I believe the practice of dialogue and community building is one through which we create a better, more compassionate and just, society.
So here I declare that I will start with one small step. I commit to participating in one FAR blog conversation each week. Our community is so worth the time it takes to create this practice of dialogue and conversation. I look forward to seeing the contours of my dialogue and community building skills improve as I engage with you all on so many different topics. I thank you in advance for your partnership!
- This topic more recently came up in the comment section of Barbara Ardinger’s guided meditation post.
Xochitl Alvizo is a feminist Christian-identified woman and a Ph.D. candidate in Practical Theology at Boston University School of Theology. She loves all things feminist. She often finds herself on the boundary of different social and cultural contexts, and works hard to develop her voice and to hear and encourage the voice of others. Her work is inspired by the conviction that all people are inextricably connected and what we do, down to the smallest thing, matters; it makes a difference for good or for ill.
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Thank you for this, Xochitl. Far too often days slip by without my even having read the daily FAR post, let alone respond to one. Yet, I always find them valuable. I appreciate your comment that how I enjoy my time, give it, and share it with others are my choices to make — an important reminder not to squander it or to let it float along at the direction others’ currents.
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You and me, both, Beth – I too often let FAR slip by me. I have a lot of teaching and writing responsibilities that I let fill my time, but I want to protect time for that which feeds me too. And being in conversation with other feminists is part of that for me. So, we keep on.
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Thanks Xochitl…
“I too love our conversations, wish there was more in depth talk on our blog [FAR], maybe there will be.” Carol’s comment could be my own…
I am starved for more of this kind of conversation and do try to be an active participant – unless it’ s another recounting of a myth without new insight – just one example that comes to mind – there are others – By the time I came on board in 2016 I think Carol’s weekly posts weren’t the only ones I longed for – yours and Elizabeths – hmm I could go on here… and by the way “like” doesn’t do it for me unless it’s followed by a comment ( LIKE what? I think)
Up until recently I have made FAR a morning practice.. I don’t read news – I open to this site while having coffee… but lately – well – it’s the lack of engagement that has left me hanging… so again, I thank you so much for reminding us all that without active engagement we all lose… and FAR is unique in its potential for breadth, depth, and scope – please let’s not let this go…
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You are so right, Sara. And I have one of the folks that ends up neglecting my own posts and the conversations they spark. I need to do better. I like writing in response to other’s posts, but so often I don’t keep up my reading in order to do that. So, like this month, I used an archive post. But, whenever I do not write a fresh post, I know I am not in a good place – the lack of writing is reflective of my own disconnect with myself and my thoughts. So yes, let’s not let this go. I am again inspired to come back to my FAR practice :-) And I love being in conversation with you and the other regulars. You are beautiful and bring beauty and love through your writing. Thank you!
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Do come back Xochitl – we need you!!! – I too am dealing with disconnect on a level I haven’t before …these are hard times – and I think we need more conversation around disconnect ….Fortunately for all of us your posts been if they have been published before still carry a timeless charge!! You too are just as beautiful with such a brilliant mind – and so much breadth and depth – I repeat, WE NEED YOU – LOVE ME
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I’ve always found that practice of deeply listening to each other is one of the greatest benefits of feminism, whether “consciousness-raising groups” of the 1970s, women’s circles of more recent decades, or more other expressions of this impulse to tell each other the truth of our lives and really hear one another. I’m so glad you have brought up the importance of the comments section here on FAR because I think this is an important way for FAR readers to engage with each other – not the same as in-person, but valuable nonetheless. Even if we may not be an expert in a topic, we know how the post affected us, what questions or insights it raised for us. And those are all essential ways we can all get to know one another better and keep the progress moving forward.
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Thank you, Carolyn. I agree with what you write. I have a friend who, at every academic conference presentation they attend, they challenge themselves to listen in a way that allows them to have a good question they can ask the presenter at the end. I think about that in relation to reading FAR posts – I can challenge myself to read so as to engage, inquire, and/or share my own thoughts, reflections, questions. We not only learn about others this way, but also about ourselves. I always learn when I’m paying attention. We indeed have the opportunity to do that here on FAR…and to “keep the progress moving forward,” indeed <3
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Hi Carolyn, I’ve already started my next FAR post on listening, beginning by talking about CR groups and how much I learned about listening from them. So thanks for bringing them up here. I used mini versions of them as a teaching tool in classes as well. Sharing the truths of our lives — this is one of the greatest gifts of feminism.
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Dear Xochitl,
I really appreciate your comments about commenting and generating dialogue. I too hesitate, particularly in online format, and particularly in spaces where I don’t personally know anyone. Technology is both a blessing and a curse. I love having access to a wide world of ideas, experience, and scholarship; yet I often feel a little deflated after a texted exchange – especially regarding sensitive topics. It’s unsettling not to be able to read and share with emotion and body language. I am often left wondering, have I just built a bridge and made a connection, or have I put someone off? Especially when thoughtful comments seem to drop into the great abyss and go unanswered… All this said, I too will make more effort – and practice more courage – to participate. I appreciate the genuine nature of the perspectives shared here as well as the intention of the platform. Deep conversations about things that matter to us are really important. I long for these connections.
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If we are not willing to risk telling our own truths/expressing opinions then we are stuck. I have found that taking those risks is what generates real depth…
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Indeed, sincere and meaningful engagement will (is) changing the world, for the better.
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Dear Jenndance,
You really do capture a great paradox of the online world – the great possibility of connection and of alienation; a blessing and a curse. And I also agree with you that FAR is a space of genuine reflection and sharing. We have a good track record of raising important conversations and working to stay open through them, erring on the side of generosity. But I have also been one to let comments go unanswered on my posts. I will do better! As Sara mentioned below, we must risk expressing our truths and opinions. The world is not helped by our lack of participation. Thank you for your comments!
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A great paradox indeed. Nonetheless, as a species we are presented with the opportunity to evolve in both intimate and technological ways – a mighty spiritual challenge for our time. ”Erring on the side of generosity” is a beautiful way to put it; words to live by. Thank you.
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